tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33539229.post8912981501260320171..comments2024-03-06T03:21:13.585-08:00Comments on RRTeaching: Why biology is harder than physicsRosie Redfieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06807912674127645263noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33539229.post-5688620933205045652024-02-04T13:57:37.984-08:002024-02-04T13:57:37.984-08:00Beykent Çilingirler, her zaman güvenilir bir çalış...Beykent Çilingirler, her zaman güvenilir bir çalışma prensibine sahip olarak hizmet verirler. Beykent çilingir konusunda da bu tip tavır takınan kişilere denk gelebilmek olasıdır. Kilit ve anahtar konusunda destek veren ustalar olarak tabir edilmektedir. Kilitli alanların ya da eşyaların açılmasında ve yeniden işlevini yerine getirmeye başlamasında çilingir hizmetleri son derecede ideal bir çözüm olacaktır. <a href="http://www.beykentcilingir.net" rel="nofollow">beykent çilingir</a> zamanda da bozulan kilitleri tamir etme ve açılmayan kilitleri açma gibi işlemleri büyük oranda kolay bir biçimde gerçekleştirebilecektir. İstenmeyen durumların önüne geçmek için çilingirlere gerek duyulmaktadır. Kaliteli hizmetleri sağlaması bakımından oldukça etkili olmalarının yanı sıra kısa süre içerisinde istenen etkiyi yaratabileceklerdir. Bu aşamada da ne kadar güvenli olduklarını da ortaya koyabileceklerdir. <a href="http://www.beykentcilingir.net" rel="nofollow">beykent anahtarcı</a> Hizmeti Anahtarcı olarak da bilinen çilingirlerden her zaman yararlanmak mümkün olacaktır. Beykent anahtarcı Links to an external site.adı altında da destek veren bu profesyonel kişiler doğrultusunda da tüm sorunları giderebilmek muhtemel olacaktır. Profesyonel hizmetlerini ortaya koyarak, kısa bir süre içerisinde etkili çözüm önerilerini sunmaktadır. Anahtarcılık konusunda destek vererek, tüm çilingirlere gereken hizmetleri alabilmek adına yönelme durumu da ortaya çıkabilmektedir. Çilingirler sayesinde bu süreç devamlı olarak basit bir hal alabilecek ve tam anlamıyla kişilerin bekledikleri gibi bir netice almalarını da sağlayabilecek yönde bulunacaktır. Sürekli olarak aktif olan çilingirlere günün her bir saati içerisinde erişebilmek de kolay bir biçimde gelişebilecektir. beylikdüzü anahtarcı Hizmet Fiyatı Çilingir desteği herkese maliyetli gelebileceğinden ötürü gerek görülmedikçe tercih edilmeyen hizmetler arasında yer almaktadır. Ancak beylikdüzü beykent Bizimkent Adakent yakuplu kavaklı Gürpınar dereağzı büyükçekmeceBeylikdüzü Beykent Çilingirhttp://www.beykentcilingir.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33539229.post-68132389995611251632022-08-28T13:28:26.119-07:002022-08-28T13:28:26.119-07:00https://www.sciencegajab.com/ https://www.sciencegajab.com/ Sanjay Prajapatihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10037501647071360696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33539229.post-16113130513643080862022-08-18T05:35:21.803-07:002022-08-18T05:35:21.803-07:00https://www.sciencegajab.com/
Please visit this ur...https://www.sciencegajab.com/<br />Please visit this url for amazing postSanjay Prajapatihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10037501647071360696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33539229.post-43455176443590208892022-01-14T03:38:31.843-08:002022-01-14T03:38:31.843-08:00There is some guy who wrote a comment , 4 comments...There is some guy who wrote a comment , 4 comments above mine, who talked about Physics having the burden of proof , despite Biology dealing with inherently more complex things, and compared Physics and Biology as subject of inquiry . <br />That guy is absolutely Spot on , and actually throws light properly on the subjectAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33539229.post-69363544920046767542020-07-20T07:15:32.103-07:002020-07-20T07:15:32.103-07:00It is more like trying to remember the weird words...It is more like trying to remember the weird words I've never even heard in my life. Seriously it is very annoying, damn those greek words why do they have to be insanely difficult to spell and memorize. Biology in general isn't hard if you actually focus, if you still don't understand. you either have the wrong person teaching you or what you're studying is messed up by who wrote it. I remember my biology teacher in highschool, he was amazing in biology but horrible in explaining in both oral and written ways :( at that time google wasn't as good as it is today, but you would really suffer from getting bad explanations or bad ways of explanations regardless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33539229.post-38770741828863031352019-10-20T04:42:03.539-07:002019-10-20T04:42:03.539-07:00@spac18
hey asshole . Immunology ,genetics?? haha...@spac18 <br />hey asshole . Immunology ,genetics?? hahahahahah<br />not even in miles near quantum mechanics or relativity.. madarchod.<br />THese shits like gen,immun or whatever the hell are just looking under microscope which are also result of physics and observing nothing else. rote memorizing. Even a child can understand them. But the higher physics like quantum not even 100 people in world can understand. the greatest genius in world history most of them were physicist or mathematicians.<br />No shitty biologist. Beside madarchod , bio was shitty classification and observation till 19th century . After physics developed, mofos like you could obseve more about the organism.<br />Physics>>>>>biology not even close. and even the asshole who wrote the article don't know shitAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15694015314007109027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33539229.post-18524102444457138782018-08-20T10:26:08.374-07:002018-08-20T10:26:08.374-07:00
Nobody understood the central idea of the artic...<br />Nobody understood the central idea of the article. Academycentric!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33539229.post-51766379648393419732016-06-06T13:26:25.193-07:002016-06-06T13:26:25.193-07:00Biology is not harder than physics. First, biologi...Biology is not harder than physics. First, biological systems are physical systems, which means any complexity inherent in a model of such a system at the biological-theoretic level is less than a similar model of the same system in a physical-theoretic idiom; model complexity increases with the precision of the model. Second, the "burden of proof" is far, far higher in physics. When an experimental physicist confirms the existence of a new particular, he does so based on a 5-sigma result, meaning that there is 1 in 3.5 million chance that his results are a statistical fluctuation. No such level of precision exists in biology. And third, biological models, almost exclusively, do no work, meaning they make no testable predictions. Physics is eminently testable. For example, when Einstein corrected Newton for the perihelion shift of Mercury, he did so at 26 decimal places. <br /><br />Forgive me, but for anyone NOT a biologist, it is laughably absurd to him or her the idea that biology is as difficult as physics a subject of inquiry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33539229.post-65892565882753399832015-10-20T16:17:57.604-07:002015-10-20T16:17:57.604-07:00biology harder then physics;
not reallybiology harder then physics;<br /><br />not reallyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33539229.post-23921590369341346372013-12-17T15:00:27.396-08:002013-12-17T15:00:27.396-08:00Biological systems are more complicated than physi...Biological systems are more complicated than physical systems. I will agree with you on that. Does that mean that biology is harder? No. Not at all.<br /><br />The reason I think biology is easier than what I consider to be "hard sciences" is the fact that biology is based so heavily on observation. The subject is essentially based on simply performing experiments and observing the results. I don't think this requires very much creativity. It requires to be able to make deductions, certainly, but not to the same extent as other subjects require.<br /><br />Granted, many branches of physics work the same way. But theoretical physics, pure mathematics, theoretical computer science, etc. require a very different kind of thinking. In these subjects much more work is expended on thinking abstractly and proving things rigorously. No amount of experimentation will ever furnish a proof in any of these subjects. You don't get to cop out and wait around while your PCR runs. That's why I think these sorts of subjects are more difficult.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33539229.post-72289039161962713392013-12-10T14:19:25.800-08:002013-12-10T14:19:25.800-08:00"Any one carbon atom is the same as any other..."Any one carbon atom is the same as any other, and today's carbon atoms are the same as those of a billion years ago. But each organism is different."<br /><br />This shows exactly how little physics and Chemistry you know. Every Carbon atom isn't even remotely close to one another. In one mole of Carbon atoms you could have every isotope present. You could have hydrogenic carbon atoms, carbanions, radical carbocations. A carbon atom in graphite is entirely different than carbon atoms in Diamond. Sp, Sp2, Sp3 are all entirely different species of carbon atoms. Carbon atoms being made in nucleosynthesis in the core of stars is different than the carbon in your Britta filter. You could argue they are all carbon atoms, But they are no way the same. Just like no two house flies are the same but they are still house flies. You kinda shoot your self in the foot with this point. Not to mention Math>Phyiscs> Chemistry> all other science is the proper order period.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33539229.post-8619675212721972742013-10-17T16:05:47.338-07:002013-10-17T16:05:47.338-07:00This is such a nerd war. I've taken lots of p...This is such a nerd war. I've taken lots of physics (thermo, a year of quantum, E&M, etc.) and biology (graduate level physiology, immunology, genetics, etc.) and I can tell you that they are both challenging. <br /><br />This argument and most of the comments are so childish that it repulses me. What is hard for you may not be hard for others. If you're used to physics, go do some biology. If you're used to biology, go learn physics (and for the sake of Einstein, learn some math while you're at it). Each discipline will stretch and blow your mind in a different way. I promise. (Unless you are a biased douche like most of the commenters.) <br /><br />Also, just so you know, I also had to learn Arabic in 63 weeks when I was in the military. And I can tell you with 100% certainty: THAT is the hardest thing I've ever done. Harder than grad level biology and harder than your precious quantum mechanics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33539229.post-35888720244219405272013-07-27T15:45:24.075-07:002013-07-27T15:45:24.075-07:00@Anon
Yes, genetics is much harder and diverse t...@Anon<br /> Yes, genetics is much harder and diverse than general relativity. Immunology is certainly more difficult than quantum mechanics or thermal and statistical mechanics. Otherwise AIDS would have already been cured. So can you even tell the difference between incomplete dominance and co dominance. If you can't, then you are a wuss.spac18https://www.blogger.com/profile/07175289481880084699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33539229.post-21036135934875030382013-07-10T14:15:43.711-07:002013-07-10T14:15:43.711-07:00It's school all over again!It's school all over again!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33539229.post-70655618996593376262013-04-27T22:30:24.864-07:002013-04-27T22:30:24.864-07:00psh, what a joke. You are trying to tell me geneti...psh, what a joke. You are trying to tell me genetics is harder than general relativity? Or that immunology is harder than quantum mechanics or thermal and statistical mechanics? Biology is something I like to call wuss science. My physics professor does research in biology because the biology department asked him to since they suck at reading data. Physics professors can do research in biology (aka biophysics and medical physics). however, bio professors certainly could not do work in physics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33539229.post-74782841828028863682012-08-26T13:40:41.413-07:002012-08-26T13:40:41.413-07:00@Cesium133 well, my point is that because physics ...@Cesium133 well, my point is that because physics does not require a high level of math, so the claim that physics is difficult due to the requirement of understanding calculus is falsse.spac18https://www.blogger.com/profile/07175289481880084699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33539229.post-39526765345207520862011-12-28T17:16:01.333-08:002011-12-28T17:16:01.333-08:00Hello everybody,
I have studied civil engineering...Hello everybody,<br /><br />I have studied civil engineering, so I have quite a good background about maths and physics. After I've obtained my master degree I ended up in a molecular biology lab where I started my PhD. <br /><br />Of course, all my engineering friends (and also myself in the early days) looked down on everything what had something to do with biology. After obtaining my PhD in Molecular biology, my opinion completely has changed. For me it is not really a matter of more complex or not, but it is a completely different way of thinking. Whereas physics/ maths tends to give direct answers or approximations of answers, this is not the case in (molecular) biology. <br /><br />I agree, biology can be described by laws of physics, but the net effect of all these physical processes that occur even in one cell are so immense that it is (and maybe forever) impossible to calculate cellular behaviour. As a result molecular and cellular biologists are forced to look at the net effect of these billions and billions of physical effects. And that is biology to me. For biologists studying ecosystems this is even more complex. <br /><br />The problem with cellular biology is that from the moment you alter expression of one protein to study its function, you don't know what other pathways are affected (biologically relevant or not). Moreover, compensational mechanisms might be induced. It is thus very difficult to start up a clean experiment. And in the context wher I was doing my research in, the molecular interactions between two cell types, this tends to be brought to another level, since two different cell systems can interact with one another. So as an engineer, in the beginning of my PhD I though I was going crazy, since nothing in my experiments could be kept constant. <br />This does not seem to be such a big problem in physics according to my knowledge.<br /><br />GreetzA. Gheldofnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33539229.post-82087512921071795102011-12-20T18:34:02.863-08:002011-12-20T18:34:02.863-08:00"Compared to mathematicians, physicists are d..."Compared to mathematicians, physicists are decent at calculus." <br /><br />Well, compared to a chair, a table performs worse for the purpose of being sat on. What's your point?Cesium133https://www.blogger.com/profile/16111531815323615675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33539229.post-50288929917763239852011-12-02T20:55:22.266-08:002011-12-02T20:55:22.266-08:00well, i know physics phds. compaired to mathmatici...well, i know physics phds. compaired to mathmaticians, they are only decent in calculas. and differential equations are class xii math, not really higher math.spac18https://www.blogger.com/profile/07175289481880084699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33539229.post-76600395702046735622011-10-19T21:49:37.457-07:002011-10-19T21:49:37.457-07:00@spac18
"to get a phd in physics, you need be...@spac18<br />"to get a phd in physics, you need be decent at calculas"<br /><br />not even close. to get a decent grade in a freshman physics course, you need to be decent at calculus. to get a decent grade in most sophomore level physics courses, you need to be decent in basic ordinary diff eqs, and to be decent in basic ordinary diff eqs, you need to be better than decent in calculus. doing decent in these classes should get you accepted to upper division undergraduate physics courses which are much tougher mathematically. as for a phd, well, the math required is much more difficult. faaaar beyond calculus.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33539229.post-42525961513336557852011-09-28T10:44:56.597-07:002011-09-28T10:44:56.597-07:00well, actually biology is chemistry in its ultimat...well, actually biology is chemistry in its ultimate complex form. to get a phd in physics, you need be decent at calculas. you can sail through while not understanding physics at all. of course there are a lot of physics graduates who understand physics really well, I have had the pleasure to meet a few of them. but theres a lot of physicists who studied physics as an easier form of math. but to study organic chemistry and biology, you really have to understand the entire concept and the underlying mechanisms. you cant realy depend on an equation to understand things, but you have to know what that equation really means, even if you dont really remember the equation itself. then there are things like differentiation, which has absolutely nothing to do with physics. to sum it up, life is not based on a bunch of equations, but its a complex chemical process which is effected by thousands of internal and external factors. thats why its impossible to describe an organism with an equation. if you want to.know it, you dont have to memorise anything, but you have to understand everything.spac18https://www.blogger.com/profile/07175289481880084699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33539229.post-85805726867527352162011-05-26T15:35:24.949-07:002011-05-26T15:35:24.949-07:00"You can do physics without knowing biology. ...<i>"You can do physics without knowing biology. You can do biology without knowing physics (most biologists do, as my coworkers give me daily proof)."</i><br /><br />Well I'm going to disagree on the above statement and put my money on the opposite.<br /><br />Physics can explain many, if not all, biological phenomena. No matter how complex a biological entity is, it still follow the fundamental law of physics. Every single atoms in your body follow such laws as they interact with other atoms to form DNA basis, DNA, chromosomes, genes, proteins cells and so on. These interactions with fancy convoluted names combined with minuscule mathematical involvement and rigorous proofs is what is known as biology. In contrast, try to explain quantum entanglement with biology. You might be the next noble prize Laurette if you manage to do so. <br /><br />To say that biology is harder than physics is analogous to saying driving a car is harder than being an automotive technician. Biology tells you that when you step on the gas pedal, the car will accelerate and you must also know (memorize) that you must step on the brake pedal to decelerate. Physics is what make the car accelerate or decelerate and will tell you the mechanical, electrical and timing to do so. All of this is from the creativity and problem solving skills of the car designer by manipulating physical laws. That's what physics is all about and what make it more challenging. Solving problems with known laws to understand and discover other laws and ideas. In addition, many of this laws and ideas deifies our common sense. Others seem not meant to be comprehend at all. For instance, visualizing higher dimensions, whats going on in a black hole, the abstract and probabilistic behavior of the quantum mechanics, mind bending relativity to name a few.<br /><br />This is my subjective opinion. I'm not here to favor physics over biology. I love science and I love biology. Both are extremely important and very challenging in their own right. However, to say that biology is harder than physics, I subjectively disagree. <br /><br />Sorry if my grammar is incompetent. English is not my first language.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33539229.post-68903883425213392072009-06-06T08:37:00.848-07:002009-06-06T08:37:00.848-07:00There is no point in comparing between biology and...There is no point in comparing between biology and physics. They are two different science.<br /><br />From wikipedia:<br /><br />"Physics is the study of matter and its motion through spacetime and all that derives from these, such as energy and force"<br /><br />"biology is the science that studies living organisms (such as animal, plant, fungus, or micro-organism)"<br /><br />I myself am a student for mechanical engineer.<br /><br />Everyone knows that gravitational law explains how earth pulls matter to it's surface.<br /><br />If earth was a living organisms, which could think, what makes you think that physical law was a good way to describe it's nature?<br /><br />The real question is whether living organisms can be explained by mathematical equations.<br /><br />I personally think, NO.<br /><br />There is no matematical or physic law which can explain a primitive life form such as a animalcule.<br /><br />The problem is that living organisms change over time, even if someone were able to find a matematical equation to explain a certain living organism, it would probably would be correct for a very short time.<br /><br />It is hard to measure events which are not consistent with time. I personally think that biology is more restricted due to this fact.<br /><br />I think that physics is much more harder to learn, but biology is much more harder to research...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33539229.post-82857096054937966032009-05-27T18:12:29.949-07:002009-05-27T18:12:29.949-07:00Physics can be applied to biology. Biology cannot ...Physics can be applied to biology. Biology cannot be applied to physics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33539229.post-45096633831509018272009-04-26T10:34:00.000-07:002009-04-26T10:34:00.000-07:00I know this is a very old "thread", but I wanted t...I know this is a very old "thread", but I wanted to share my sentiment on Doppelganger's attitude here. Instead of responding properly with reason, he/she responds condescendingly with baseless ridicule and insults: <br /><br />"Maybe, but I could sure live without arrogant, self-important prigs."<br /><br />"Maybe we would all be better off if physicists and physical chemists just did everything. Then you can apply your oh-so-complex maths to everything and we will all be duly impressed and awed by your superiority."<br /><br />"Which, clearly, Fred Ross, Physicist, has done! <br /><br />AMAZING!"<br /><br /><br />Looking back on the comments, it is not Fred Ross who is arrogant - but it is rather you, my good sir. Get off your high horse.Desmondnoreply@blogger.com